Comments on: Second Street Restart http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart live from downtown harrisburg Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:59:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: floor9 http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-580 floor9 Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:42:20 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-580 They have the same mains as Avalon. The EAW DC2 was custom-built for Avalon NYC, if I remember correctly. It has a fairly unique \"flat\" design, ideal for flying in venues that don\'t have much space. <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://www.djmart.com/eaw-dc2-speaker.html\" rel="nofollow">This site</a> has them for sale, though I think he typical going rate is closer to $2000 a piece (installed) right now.  For comparison, Dragonfly\'s mains (off the top of my head, JBL Pro SRX series, though I may be off) cost about $1200 these days. For the record, I was never a fan of JBL until I heard the system at Dragonfly.  In fact, on opening night I was very disappointed to see those orange shields all over the place.  While not the best system I\'ve ever heard, Dragonfly\'s is pretty good. Right now it suffers a little, because the DSP was set for dance music on vinyl when the system was brand new back in 2002 and has never been adjusted since.  Now the system\'s a little older, and we have DJs using CD, laptop, and vinyl, and playing salsa and hip hop.  Doesn\'t quite work as well. So the speakers aren\'t everything; a good sound engineer can take mid-range equipment and make it rock, while a poorly-designed top-shelf system will sound like trash. They have the same mains as Avalon. The EAW DC2 was custom-built for Avalon NYC, if I remember correctly. It has a fairly unique \”flat\” design, ideal for flying in venues that don\’t have much space. This site has them for sale, though I think he typical going rate is closer to $2000 a piece (installed) right now.  For comparison, Dragonfly\’s mains (off the top of my head, JBL Pro SRX series, though I may be off) cost about $1200 these days.

For the record, I was never a fan of JBL until I heard the system at Dragonfly.  In fact, on opening night I was very disappointed to see those orange shields all over the place.  While not the best system I\’ve ever heard, Dragonfly\’s is pretty good. Right now it suffers a little, because the DSP was set for dance music on vinyl when the system was brand new back in 2002 and has never been adjusted since.  Now the system\’s a little older, and we have DJs using CD, laptop, and vinyl, and playing salsa and hip hop.  Doesn\’t quite work as well.
So the speakers aren\’t everything; a good sound engineer can take mid-range equipment and make it rock, while a poorly-designed top-shelf system will sound like trash.

]]> By: burgi http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-542 burgi Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:04:11 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-542 9 didnt you say eclipse has the same sound system as avlon 9 didnt you say eclipse has the same sound system as avlon

]]> By: Big Ron J http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-501 Big Ron J Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:20:26 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-501 That system in Eclipse is no more than: 4 EAW DC2 4 EAW DCS2 ( Rated @ 1000m. RMS ) per box At its peak all your gonna get out of that shit is about 6,000watts. Some people have more in their cars. That stuff is just boxes you open up, plug in and press play. Trust me I know my stuff. That system in Eclipse is no more than:

4 EAW DC2
4 EAW DCS2 ( Rated @ 1000m. RMS ) per box

At its peak all your gonna get out of that shit is about 6,000watts. Some people have more in their cars. That stuff is just boxes you open up, plug in and press play. Trust me I know my stuff.

]]> By: Justin http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-452 Justin Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:40:44 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-452 Ice Las Vegas uses Funktion-One! Ice Las Vegas uses Funktion-One!

]]> By: Mak http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-398 Mak Fri, 21 Jul 2006 00:05:38 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-398 I know for a fact that the Hardware Bar (York & Harrisburg), Dragonfly & Eclipse all have CUSTOM bass arrays in their buildings. Had you ever been there, you would notice that the sound in these places, though loud, is always very clean and clear. Great house systems. I know for a fact that the Hardware Bar (York & Harrisburg), Dragonfly & Eclipse all have CUSTOM bass arrays in their buildings. Had you ever been there, you would notice that the sound in these places, though loud, is always very clean and clear. Great house systems.

]]> By: floor9 http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-396 floor9 Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:28:44 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-396 Eclipse uses EAW. I've heard Phazon. It wasn't terribly impressive. Might've been the DJ, though. Eclipse uses EAW.

I’ve heard Phazon. It wasn’t terribly impressive. Might’ve been the DJ, though.

]]> By: Big Ron J http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-394 Big Ron J Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:09:10 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-394 When doing a sound system in a "nightclub" there are only a few names that you should really be dealing with. Not that over the counter garbage like the stuff thats in Dragonfly, Eclipse, Hardware bar and all the other so called "nightclubs" in this area. The foundation for a "Nightclub" is its sound system. Take every single club in NYC, LV, Miami,LA and the one thing they all have in common is Superior sound custom made by one of these names: --Turbosound ( Pure LV , Ice LV, Central Fly NYC ) --GSANY ( Sound Factory NYC, Ministry of Sound UK,Sound Factory Miami ) --Phazon ( Crobar Miami,NYC Twilo NYC,Miami ) --Systems by Shorty ( Stereo Montreal ) --Alpha Dynacord ( Pacha NYC, Space Miami, Rain LV, Mynt Miami ) --Funktion-One ( Creamfields ) --EAW ( Mansion, Prive, Opium Garden, Amika Miami ) Let me know what you think. When doing a sound system in a “nightclub” there are only a few names that you should really be dealing with. Not that over the counter garbage like the stuff thats in Dragonfly, Eclipse, Hardware bar and all the other so called “nightclubs” in this area. The foundation for a “Nightclub” is its sound system. Take every single club in NYC, LV, Miami,LA and the one thing they all have in common is Superior sound custom made by one of these names:

–Turbosound ( Pure LV , Ice LV, Central Fly NYC )
–GSANY ( Sound Factory NYC, Ministry of Sound UK,Sound Factory Miami )
–Phazon ( Crobar Miami,NYC Twilo NYC,Miami )
–Systems by Shorty ( Stereo Montreal )
–Alpha Dynacord ( Pacha NYC, Space Miami, Rain LV, Mynt Miami )
–Funktion-One ( Creamfields )
–EAW ( Mansion, Prive, Opium Garden, Amika Miami )

Let me know what you think.

]]> By: Mak http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-195 Mak Fri, 07 Jul 2006 05:22:37 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-195 real quick... i did go to "prive" tonight. i dig that place. had a good vibe. for the first time in a few years, i actually saw people there too!! great drink menu! real quick… i did go to “prive” tonight. i dig that place. had a good vibe. for the first time in a few years, i actually saw people there too!!

great drink menu!

]]> By: cosby http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-194 cosby Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:41:00 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-194 i have nothing against fresco, i quite like it. everytime i walk by, it seems to be empty. maybe i'm about the town at strange hours, but i never see too much going on there... i have nothing against fresco, i quite like it. everytime i walk by, it seems to be empty. maybe i’m about the town at strange hours, but i never see too much going on there…

]]> By: Mak http://floor9.com/downtown/second-street-restart/comment-page-1#comment-193 Mak Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:39:52 +0000 http://floor-9.com/wp/2006/07/01/second-street-restart/#comment-193 cosby... you seem down on cafe fresco quite a bit. i am curious as to why? they are always packed, the food is outstanding, the prices are even better. the live music they offer on friday/saturday is outstanding and the atmosphere isn't... well... anything like eclispe. of all of the new venues downtown, i would call cafe fresco the most successful because they have developed an enormous core patronage without any real gimmicks (except maybe no smoking, but i don't see that as gimmicky). i hope downtown is shifting... because its lost my business. there is more to life than OMGPARTYBAR!!!! and Irish Pubs. sure, if i want a quite night, i'll go to max's or jackie blue (hilton out door bar in the summer), but for the most part 2nd street doesn't have much appeal anymore, to me at least. cosby… you seem down on cafe fresco quite a bit. i am curious as to why? they are always packed, the food is outstanding, the prices are even better. the live music they offer on friday/saturday is outstanding and the atmosphere isn’t… well… anything like eclispe. of all of the new venues downtown, i would call cafe fresco the most successful because they have developed an enormous core patronage without any real gimmicks (except maybe no smoking, but i don’t see that as gimmicky).

i hope downtown is shifting… because its lost my business. there is more to life than OMGPARTYBAR!!!! and Irish Pubs. sure, if i want a quite night, i’ll go to max’s or jackie blue (hilton out door bar in the summer), but for the most part 2nd street doesn’t have much appeal anymore, to me at least.

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